EP. 83: Elizabeth C. Pagé: Leadership for a Change — What Climbing the Himalayas with a Sherpa Can Teach Us About Business
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My guest today is Elizabeth Campbell Pagé. In the last 10 years, her leadership courses have reached 60,000 students. She is an entrepreneur, manager, and global executive in international organizations, including The World Bank, Inter-American Development Bank (IDB), and The Royal Society. Elizabeth teaches cross-sectoral teams in person and online.
She was also the founder, publisher, and editor of a global, peer-reviewed journal of economic and environmental sciences, Ecodecision, featuring Francophone and Commonwealth articles and distributed to over 100 countries.
Elizabeth C. Pagé shares her childhood influences, early adventures, and curiosity. She discusses the challenges and rewards of living in different places and straddling cultures. Elizabeth talks about her work in leadership development and the importance of leading remote and hybrid teams. She explores the redefinition of success and failure and the need for a broader perspective.
Elizabeth emphasizes the value of process and long-term thinking and the importance of intrinsic motivation in leadership. In this conversation, we discuss the redefinition of leadership in the face of disruption and the importance of creating more leaders. We explore the need for meaningful connections and creating environments where people can challenge ideas.
We also delve into the impact of AI on different professions and the need for re-skilling. The power of storytelling and trust in business is highlighted, along with the intrinsic value of stories and the human element. The conversation concludes with a reflection on the seismic shift in the definition of success.
Takeaways
Childhood experiences and upbringing can greatly influence one's career and curiosity. Living in different places and straddling cultures can provide a unique perspective and appreciation for diversity.
Leading remote and hybrid teams requires new skills and techniques for effective communication and engagement. Success and failure should be redefined beyond traditional metrics and consider long-term impact and intrinsic motivation.
Leadership should focus on creating more leaders rather than finding good followers. Creating meaningful connections and environments where people can challenge ideas is crucial in the face of disruption.
The impact of AI on different professions requires individuals to adapt and re-skill. Storytelling and trust play a vital role in business, as they convey authenticity and create connections.
Chapters:
05:00 Introduction and Childhood Influences
08:13 Early Adventures and Curiosity
11:02 Living in Different Places and Straddling Cultures
14:27 The Work of Elizabeth C. Pagé
18:38 Leading Remote and Hybrid Teams
19:29 Creating a Safe Space for Voices to Be Heard
27:26 The Importance of Process and Long-Term Thinking
33:12 The Nuances of Success and Failure
34:31 The Shift from Extrinsic to Intrinsic Motivation
41:36 Redefining Leadership and Creating More Leaders
44:07 The Shift in Leadership and the Need for Meaningful Connections 45:09 Creating an Environment for Challenging Ideas
47:20 Preparing for the Disruption of AI
49:18 The Impact of AI on Different Professions
53:45 Aligning Values and Investing for Generational Wealth
56:54 The Power of Storytelling and Trust in Business
01:01:01 The Intrinsic Value of Stories and the Human Element 01:04:31 Insight, Hindsight, and Foresight in Success
01:07:54 Leadership as Guiding and Empowering Others
01:14:06 The Seismic Shift in the Definition of Success
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